Phil Ivey's Edge Sorting

[CUSTOMTABLES]

thats the player who u see in a mtt that is "holding up" their cards...ask them nicely to them down so no1 can see them....does it over n over....wat to do? i mean same kinda concept....wasnt ivey touching the cards....it was a fault in their decks and was exposed.....they should know better and be on top of these kinds things....

[FrankWhite]

Well, it may be legal, but I don't know. Seems like counting cards in blackjack would be perfectly legal. I think its a grey area and he won through manipulation.

[Drock1116]

As long as you follow the etiquette of poker all is legal and no one should complain about it.

[FrankWhite]

Well, this wasn't poker. And, he didn't follow the etiquette of the game he was playing. He tricked the dealer into laying the cards sideways. The dealer probably lost there job over this.

[TomKat1958]

some players have strategy that doesn't involve normal every day playing proccesses... can't hate on them for being creative

[20x21]

When you get up to the millions of dollars in your bankroll you really have to play differently. Mathmatically correct poker is important but people like Ivey build an image so we just see highlights on TV. Its really hard to correctly assume how every hand went before the highlight we see too. Someone might of shoved with like J5 then next hand you see ivey call with 10/j vs that player. Seems like a horrible play but with the history its actually correct mathmatically.

Patrick

[dipstick2]

yes if yu make amistake oh well 4 yu,but if casino makes a mistake they got a backup rule to screw yu

[MyDogsRMyHomies]

Its sounds like a legal issue to me , take em to court

[ChuckFinnley]

i love how these casinos will use any edge possible to take millions from people... but when someone gains an edge over them its "cheating"

[paulweberpaul]

When you get up to the millions of dollars in your bankroll you really have to play differently. Mathmatically correct poker is important but people like Ivey build an image so we just see highlights on TV. Its really hard to correctly assume how every hand went before the highlight we see too. Someone might of shoved with like J5 then next hand you see ivey call with 10/j vs that player. Seems like a horrible play but with the history its actually correct mathmatically.

Patrick

yes so true. It's only a special point of view they show in the highlights on tv.

By the way. Ivy is my favourite player so hopefully he will come out fine from this.