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  1. #1
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    tommy62278 running horse for me Italian314 in Big 10 1k

    50/50 plus stake back if itm
    60/40 plus stake back if top 3

    do you agree?

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    is this 60/40 my favor if top 3?

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    for sure.

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    agreed. gl us

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    totally lost here. guy has been super aggressive whole game. wanted to repop preflop. then on flop i just flat. n decided to fold on turn with 2 overs out.

    Game started at: 2013/11/19 16:37:5
    Game ID: 221892311 75/150 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD, Table 16 (Hold'em)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: nashpred22 (11624).
    Seat 2: dierte1000 (12103).
    Seat 3: horse62278 (4465).
    Seat 4: WachaWacha (9070).
    Seat 5: CleaningYouOut (4775).
    Seat 6: dLemko1 (6731).
    Seat 7: cartero72 (5465).
    Seat 8: Stuckonsmash (12400).
    Seat 9: bigjohn60 (13840).
    Player CleaningYouOut ante (15)
    Player dLemko1 ante (15)
    Player cartero72 ante (15)
    Player Stuckonsmash ante (15)
    Player bigjohn60 ante (15)
    Player nashpred22 ante (15)
    Player dierte1000 ante (15)
    Player horse62278 ante (15)
    Player WachaWacha ante (15)
    Player CleaningYouOut has small blind (75)
    Player dLemko1 has big blind (150)
    Player CleaningYouOut received a card.
    Player CleaningYouOut received a card.
    Player dLemko1 received a card.
    Player dLemko1 received a card.
    Player cartero72 received a card.
    Player cartero72 received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player bigjohn60 received a card.
    Player bigjohn60 received a card.
    Player nashpred22 received a card.
    Player nashpred22 received a card.
    Player dierte1000 received a card.
    Player dierte1000 received a card.
    Player horse62278 received card: [8s]
    Player horse62278 received card: [8d]
    Player WachaWacha received a card.
    Player WachaWacha received a card.
    Player cartero72 folds
    Player Stuckonsmash folds
    Player bigjohn60 calls (150)
    Player nashpred22 folds
    Player dierte1000 raises (450)
    Player horse62278 calls (450)
    Player WachaWacha folds
    Player CleaningYouOut folds
    Player dLemko1 folds
    Player bigjohn60 calls (300)
    *** FLOP ***: [10d 3h 2c]
    Player bigjohn60 checks
    Player dierte1000 bets (1140)
    Player horse62278 calls (1140)
    Player bigjohn60 folds
    *** TURN ***: [10d 3h 2c] [Kc]
    Player dierte1000 bets (3000)
    Player horse62278 folds
    Uncalled bet (3000) returned to dierte1000
    Player dierte1000 mucks cards
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 3990. Rake 0
    Board: [10d 3h 2c Kc]
    Player nashpred22 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    *Player dierte1000 mucks (does not show cards). Bets: 1605. Collects: 3990. Wins: 2385.
    Player horse62278 does not show cards.Bets: 1605. Collects: 0. Loses: 1605.
    Player WachaWacha does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player CleaningYouOut does not show cards.Bets: 90. Collects: 0. Loses: 90.
    Player dLemko1 does not show cards.Bets: 165. Collects: 0. Loses: 165.
    Player cartero72 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player Stuckonsmash does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player bigjohn60 does not show cards.Bets: 465. Collects: 0. Loses: 465.
    Game ended at: 2013/11/19 16:38:52

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    my 1st break

    8399 chips after this pot

    Game started at: 2013/11/19 16:54:17
    Game ID: 221898659 100/200 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD, Table 4 (Hold'em)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Seat 1: Najibb (7210).
    Seat 2: HowusayBet (7065).
    Seat 3: fingers911 (10887).
    Seat 5: horse62278 (7259).
    Seat 6: No1CokcsLaped (11254).
    Seat 7: NgTr3244 (10014).
    Seat 8: sameodamono (3442).
    Seat 9: BrNoVo (15260).
    Player fingers911 ante (20)
    Player horse62278 ante (20)
    Player No1CokcsLaped ante (20)
    Player NgTr3244 ante (20)
    Player sameodamono ante (20)
    Player BrNoVo ante (20)
    Player Najibb ante (20)
    Player HowusayBet ante (20)
    Player fingers911 has small blind (100)
    Player horse62278 has big blind (200)
    Player fingers911 received a card.
    Player fingers911 received a card.
    Player horse62278 received card: [Qd]
    Player horse62278 received card: [8d]
    Player No1CokcsLaped received a card.
    Player No1CokcsLaped received a card.
    Player NgTr3244 received a card.
    Player NgTr3244 received a card.
    Player sameodamono received a card.
    Player sameodamono received a card.
    Player BrNoVo received a card.
    Player BrNoVo received a card.
    Player Najibb received a card.
    Player Najibb received a card.
    Player HowusayBet received a card.
    Player HowusayBet received a card.
    Player No1CokcsLaped folds
    Player NgTr3244 folds
    Player sameodamono folds
    Player BrNoVo folds
    Player Najibb calls (200)
    Player HowusayBet folds
    Player fingers911 calls (100)
    Player horse62278 checks
    *** FLOP ***: [9h 6s Qc]
    Player fingers911 checks
    Player horse62278 checks
    Player Najibb bets (200)
    Player fingers911 folds
    Player horse62278 raises (600)
    Player Najibb calls (400)
    *** TURN ***: [9h 6s Qc] [3h]
    Player horse62278 bets (1307)
    Player Najibb folds
    Uncalled bet (1307) returned to horse62278
    Player horse62278 mucks cards
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 1960. Rake 0
    Board: [9h 6s Qc 3h]
    Player Najibb does not show cards.Bets: 820. Collects: 0. Loses: 820.
    Player HowusayBet does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
    Player fingers911 does not show cards.Bets: 220. Collects: 0. Loses: 220.
    *Player horse62278 mucks (does not show cards). Bets: 820. Collects: 1960. Wins: 1140.
    Player No1CokcsLaped does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
    Player NgTr3244 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
    Player sameodamono does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
    Player BrNoVo does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
    Game ended at: 2013/11/19 16:55:33

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy62278 View Post
    totally lost here. guy has been super aggressive whole game. wanted to repop preflop. then on flop i just flat. n decided to fold on turn with 2 overs out.

    Game started at: 2013/11/19 16:37:5
    Game ID: 221892311 75/150 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD, Table 16 (Hold'em)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: nashpred22 (11624).
    Seat 2: dierte1000 (12103).
    Seat 3: horse62278 (4465).
    Seat 4: WachaWacha (9070).
    Seat 5: CleaningYouOut (4775).
    Seat 6: dLemko1 (6731).
    Seat 7: cartero72 (5465).
    Seat 8: Stuckonsmash (12400).
    Seat 9: bigjohn60 (13840).
    Player CleaningYouOut ante (15)
    Player dLemko1 ante (15)
    Player cartero72 ante (15)
    Player Stuckonsmash ante (15)
    Player bigjohn60 ante (15)
    Player nashpred22 ante (15)
    Player dierte1000 ante (15)
    Player horse62278 ante (15)
    Player WachaWacha ante (15)
    Player CleaningYouOut has small blind (75)
    Player dLemko1 has big blind (150)
    Player CleaningYouOut received a card.
    Player CleaningYouOut received a card.
    Player dLemko1 received a card.
    Player dLemko1 received a card.
    Player cartero72 received a card.
    Player cartero72 received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player bigjohn60 received a card.
    Player bigjohn60 received a card.
    Player nashpred22 received a card.
    Player nashpred22 received a card.
    Player dierte1000 received a card.
    Player dierte1000 received a card.
    Player horse62278 received card: [8s]
    Player horse62278 received card: [8d]
    Player WachaWacha received a card.
    Player WachaWacha received a card.
    Player cartero72 folds
    Player Stuckonsmash folds
    Player bigjohn60 calls (150)
    Player nashpred22 folds
    Player dierte1000 raises (450)
    Player horse62278 calls (450)
    Player WachaWacha folds
    Player CleaningYouOut folds
    Player dLemko1 folds
    Player bigjohn60 calls (300)
    *** FLOP ***: [10d 3h 2c]
    Player bigjohn60 checks
    Player dierte1000 bets (1140)
    Player horse62278 calls (1140)
    Player bigjohn60 folds
    *** TURN ***: [10d 3h 2c] [Kc]
    Player dierte1000 bets (3000)
    Player horse62278 folds
    Uncalled bet (3000) returned to dierte1000
    Player dierte1000 mucks cards
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 3990. Rake 0
    Board: [10d 3h 2c Kc]
    Player nashpred22 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    *Player dierte1000 mucks (does not show cards). Bets: 1605. Collects: 3990. Wins: 2385.
    Player horse62278 does not show cards.Bets: 1605. Collects: 0. Loses: 1605.
    Player WachaWacha does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player CleaningYouOut does not show cards.Bets: 90. Collects: 0. Loses: 90.
    Player dLemko1 does not show cards.Bets: 165. Collects: 0. Loses: 165.
    Player cartero72 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player Stuckonsmash does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
    Player bigjohn60 does not show cards.Bets: 465. Collects: 0. Loses: 465.
    Game ended at: 2013/11/19 16:38:52
    Ok, your header says that you have the impression that Villain is AGGRO. This hand emphasizes the idea that you need to plot out future streets. We have a UTG limper, and a raise that is 10% of your stack. When we call here, we have to assume that the UTG player is going to come along as well. Do you really think it is optimal to play a pot sandwiched between the Iso-raiser and the limp/caller??? Especially when out SPR- Stack to pot Ration is going to be barely over 2.5:1. Folding is best, raise/calling it off is bad, and calling is the worst. Additionally, the flop is going to likely go UTG check, PFR cbets, Hero ??? You got a super clean board and you still managed to donk off more chips. I might sound like an asshole here, but its true. 30BBs is way to many chips to be jamming in this spot given positional action, and sadly jamming is quite a bit better of a play than what you made. Fold 88 pre-flop.
    Last edited by sickread23; 11-19-2013 at 05:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sickread23 View Post
    Ok, your header says that you have the impression that Villain is AGGRO. This hand emphasizes the idea that you need to plot out future streets. We have a UTG limper, and a raise that is 10% of your stack. When we call here, we have to assume that the UTG player is going to come along as well. Do you really think it is optimal to play a pot sandwiched between the Iso-raiser and the limp/caller??? Especially when out SPR- Stack to pot Ration is going to be barely over 2.5:1. Folding is best, raise/calling it off is bad, and calling is the worst. Additionally, the flop is going to likely go UTG check, PFR cbets, Hero ??? You got a super clean board and you still managed to donk off more chips. I might sound like an asshole here, but its true. 30BBs is way to many chips to be jamming in this spot given positional action, and sadly jamming is quite a bit better of a play than what you made. Fold 88 pre-flop.
    youre prob right. i decided to set mine preflop n shoulda given up or jam flop

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    what a BB. guy limps QQ n i flop a monster n hold

    Game started at: 2013/11/19 17:16:46
    Game ID: 221906460 125/250 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD, Table 4 (Hold'em)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: Najibb (4641).
    Seat 2: HowusayBet (8495).
    Seat 3: fingers911 (11721).
    Seat 4: jhtr (7277).
    Seat 5: horse62278 (9989).
    Seat 6: No1CokcsLaped (12254).
    Seat 7: NgTr3244 (11546).
    Seat 9: BrNoVo (16045).
    Player jhtr ante (25)
    Player horse62278 ante (25)
    Player No1CokcsLaped ante (25)
    Player NgTr3244 ante (25)
    Player BrNoVo ante (25)
    Player Najibb ante (25)
    Player HowusayBet ante (25)
    Player fingers911 ante (25)
    Player jhtr has small blind (125)
    Player horse62278 has big blind (250)
    Player jhtr received a card.
    Player jhtr received a card.
    Player horse62278 received card: [5s]
    Player horse62278 received card: [9s]
    Player No1CokcsLaped received a card.
    Player No1CokcsLaped received a card.
    Player NgTr3244 received a card.
    Player NgTr3244 received a card.
    Player BrNoVo received a card.
    Player BrNoVo received a card.
    Player Najibb received a card.
    Player Najibb received a card.
    Player HowusayBet received a card.
    Player HowusayBet received a card.
    Player fingers911 received a card.
    Player fingers911 received a card.
    Player No1CokcsLaped folds
    Player NgTr3244 folds
    Player BrNoVo folds
    Player Najibb calls (250)
    Player HowusayBet folds
    Player fingers911 calls (250)
    Player jhtr calls (125)
    Player horse62278 checks
    *** FLOP ***: [3d 5c 9d]
    Player jhtr checks
    Player horse62278 bets (600)
    Player Najibb allin (4366)
    Player fingers911 calls (4366)
    Player jhtr folds
    Player horse62278 raises (7532)
    Player fingers911 calls (3766)
    *** TURN ***: [3d 5c 9d] [2s]
    Player horse62278 allin (1582)
    Player fingers911 calls (1582)
    *** RIVER ***: [3d 5c 9d 2s] [10s]
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 24994. Rake 0
    Board: [3d 5c 9d 2s 10s]
    Player Najibb shows: One pair of Qs [Qs Qc]. Bets: 4641. Collects: 0. Loses: 4641.
    Player HowusayBet does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
    Player fingers911 shows: High card K [Kd 8d]. Bets: 9989. Collects: 0. Loses: 9989.
    Player jhtr does not show cards.Bets: 275. Collects: 0. Loses: 275.
    *Player horse62278 shows: Two pairs. 9s and 5s [5s 9s]. Bets: 9989. Collects: 24994. Wins: 15005.
    Player No1CokcsLaped does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
    Player NgTr3244 does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
    Player BrNoVo does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
    Game ended at: 2013/11/19 17:18:6

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    gambled bigtime here but i had a shot at huge pot n won

    Game started at: 2013/11/19 18:22:42
    Game ID: 221932604 300/600 BIG10 - $1,000 GTD, Table 3 (Hold'em)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: hunde (10145).
    Seat 2: horse62278 (24334).
    Seat 3: tellimonster (15820).
    Seat 4: ledonateur716 (25090).
    Seat 5: TitanGoose1 (2625).
    Seat 6: Stuckonsmash (41206).
    Seat 7: Sirialin (17435).
    Seat 8: stevieweezie (6350).
    Seat 9: viper xxx (13207).
    Player TitanGoose1 ante (75)
    Player Stuckonsmash ante (75)
    Player Sirialin ante (75)
    Player stevieweezie ante (75)
    Player viper xxx ante (75)
    Player hunde ante (75)
    Player horse62278 ante (75)
    Player tellimonster ante (75)
    Player ledonateur716 ante (75)
    Player TitanGoose1 has small blind (300)
    Player Stuckonsmash has big blind (600)
    Player TitanGoose1 received a card.
    Player TitanGoose1 received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player Stuckonsmash received a card.
    Player Sirialin received a card.
    Player Sirialin received a card.
    Player stevieweezie received a card.
    Player stevieweezie received a card.
    Player viper xxx received a card.
    Player viper xxx received a card.
    Player hunde received a card.
    Player hunde received a card.
    Player horse62278 received card: [10c]
    Player horse62278 received card: [Ks]
    Player tellimonster received a card.
    Player tellimonster received a card.
    Player ledonateur716 received a card.
    Player ledonateur716 received a card.
    Player Sirialin folds
    Player stevieweezie folds
    Player viper xxx folds
    Player hunde folds
    Player horse62278 raises (1800)
    Player tellimonster folds
    Player ledonateur716 calls (1800)
    Player TitanGoose1 allin (2250)
    Player Stuckonsmash folds
    Player horse62278 calls (750)
    Player ledonateur716 calls (750)
    *** FLOP ***: [9s 7s Qs]
    Player horse62278 checks
    Player ledonateur716 bets (5785)
    Player horse62278 allin (21709)
    Player ledonateur716 calls (15924)
    *** TURN ***: [9s 7s Qs] [4d]
    *** RIVER ***: [9s 7s Qs 4d] [2s]
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 52343. Rake 0
    Board: [9s 7s Qs 4d 2s]
    Player hunde does not show cards.Bets: 75. Collects: 0. Loses: 75.
    *Player horse62278 shows: Flush, K high [10c Ks]. Bets: 24334. Collects: 52343. Wins: 28009.
    Player tellimonster does not show cards.Bets: 75. Collects: 0. Loses: 75.
    Player ledonateur716 shows: Three Of Kind of 9s [9h 9d]. Bets: 24334. Collects: 0. Loses: 24334.
    Player TitanGoose1 shows: High card A [Kc Ad]. Bets: 2625. Collects: 0. Loses: 2625.
    Player Stuckonsmash does not show cards.Bets: 675. Collects: 0. Loses: 675.
    Player Sirialin does not show cards.Bets: 75. Collects: 0. Loses: 75.
    Player stevieweezie does not show cards.Bets: 75. Collects: 0. Loses: 75.
    Player viper xxx does not show cards.Bets: 75. Collects: 0. Loses: 75.
    Game ended at: 2013/11/19 18:24:20

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