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    Please give me some advice about this hand

    PokerStars Hand #100533210183: Tournament #750220355, $0.25+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2013/06/24 23:42:49 ET
    Table '750220355 46' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: djtiagomag (8382 in chips)
    Seat 2: JuanBC (3505 in chips)
    Seat 3: batton76 (42155 in chips)
    Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 (11877 in chips)
    Seat 6: andru13 (6642 in chips)
    Seat 7: tibirun26 (1730 in chips)
    Seat 8: dosaa7 (14885 in chips)
    Seat 9: okaaa (5270 in chips)
    djtiagomag: posts the ante 50
    JuanBC: posts the ante 50
    batton76: posts the ante 50
    TunguiAK1422: posts the ante 50
    andru13: posts the ante 50
    tibirun26: posts the ante 50
    dosaa7: posts the ante 50
    okaaa: posts the ante 50
    okaaa: posts small blind 200
    djtiagomag: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dosaa7 [Ac 6s]
    JuanBC: folds
    batton76: folds
    TunguiAK1422: folds
    andru13: folds
    tibirun26: folds
    dosaa7: raises 400 to 800
    okaaa: calls 600
    djtiagomag: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 3s 8c]
    okaaa: checks
    dosaa7: bets 400
    okaaa: calls 400
    *** TURN *** [As 3s 8c] [8d]
    okaaa: checks
    dosaa7: checks
    *** RIVER *** [As 3s 8c 8d] [4h]
    okaaa: bets 2000
    dosaa7: calls 2000
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    okaaa: shows [Ah Js] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
    dosaa7: mucks hand
    okaaa collected 7200 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7200 | Rake 0
    Board [As 3s 8c 8d 4h]
    Seat 1: djtiagomag (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: JuanBC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: batton76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: andru13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: tibirun26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: dosaa7 (button) mucked [Ac 6s]
    Seat 9: okaaa (small blind) showed [Ah Js] and won (7200) with two pair, Aces and Eights

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    What more do you need to know...other than playing A rag can get you in trouble...

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    i agree with snk!! ace rag will get u in trouble every time!! and when he kept calling u should have known u were behind!! he just slow played u!

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    i would of either shoved or folded pre flop depending on what the players in the blinds where like. definitely wouldn't of min raised. not much you could of done about been out kicked though. i tend to stay away from raggy aces unless i'm less than 15BB.

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    As played, the hand is fine up to the river. You have a large stack, putting pressure on the smaller stacks, you need to raise these hands preflop in position. The problem with the river is this, you don't beat anything other than a bluff. He calls your flop bet with either a spade flush draw or an A or 8. On that board, you lose to any 8 and most of his aces, and at the 25cent buy in level, the average player cant bluff a missed spade draw. He is betting half his remaining stack on the river meaning you are most certainly beat.
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    The other responses thus far arent taking into consideration stack sizes and position. You definitely are right to raise this hands preflop on the button. But you have to consider where you are on each street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dosaa7 View Post
    PokerStars Hand #100533210183: Tournament #750220355, $0.25+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2013/06/24 23:42:49 ET
    Table '750220355 46' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: djtiagomag (8382 in chips)
    Seat 2: JuanBC (3505 in chips)
    Seat 3: batton76 (42155 in chips)
    Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 (11877 in chips)
    Seat 6: andru13 (6642 in chips)
    Seat 7: tibirun26 (1730 in chips)
    Seat 8: dosaa7 (14885 in chips)
    Seat 9: okaaa (5270 in chips)
    djtiagomag: posts the ante 50
    JuanBC: posts the ante 50
    batton76: posts the ante 50
    TunguiAK1422: posts the ante 50
    andru13: posts the ante 50
    tibirun26: posts the ante 50
    dosaa7: posts the ante 50
    okaaa: posts the ante 50
    okaaa: posts small blind 200
    djtiagomag: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to dosaa7 [Ac 6s]
    JuanBC: folds
    batton76: folds
    TunguiAK1422: folds
    andru13: folds
    tibirun26: folds
    dosaa7: raises 400 to 800
    okaaa: calls 600
    djtiagomag: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 3s 8c]
    okaaa: checks
    dosaa7: bets 400
    okaaa: calls 400
    *** TURN *** [As 3s 8c] [8d]
    okaaa: checks
    dosaa7: checks
    *** RIVER *** [As 3s 8c 8d] [4h]
    okaaa: bets 2000
    dosaa7: calls 2000
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    okaaa: shows [Ah Js] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
    dosaa7: mucks hand
    okaaa collected 7200 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7200 | Rake 0
    Board [As 3s 8c 8d 4h]
    Seat 1: djtiagomag (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: JuanBC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: batton76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: TunguiAK1422 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: andru13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: tibirun26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: dosaa7 (button) mucked [Ac 6s]
    Seat 9: okaaa (small blind) showed [Ah Js] and won (7200) with two pair, Aces and Eights

    Pretty standard up until the river. I really like a check back by you, and it is not being results oriented. Villain knows you are going to keep repping the Ace if you are bluffing, plus you might value own yourself as well. Furthermore, an 8 is definitely part of his flop calling range. What type of value do you think you are getting by betting 3 streets? What worse hands are calling? I know it is the micros but still; on the river he has a hand that beats you 95% of the time when he checks it to you. You should have checked back the turn, and called a river bet. You still would have lost, but you would have lost less, and you catch some silly bluffs.
    *** I see he lead into you otr. As played, I fold. If you check back the turn which would have done, I would call the river. ***
    Last edited by sickread23; 07-05-2013 at 09:50 AM.

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    Don't bet 1/5 pot otf. It accomplishes nothing other than opening yourself up to being bluffed all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oVITOo View Post
    Don't bet 1/5 pot otf. It accomplishes nothing other than opening yourself up to being bluffed all the time.
    And that is a bad thing?

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    Since this is at jokerstars, the only way to play and win is to be super tight. That sight is too famous for idiot players from *cough* Russia *cough*...."Book" play just doesn't work online at all...

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