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  1. #1
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    How bad was this fold?

    Final table bubble $1r. Dry board. reraised and a effective shove and a call. How am i ahead here.

    Game started at: 2013/10/3 21:11:39
    Game ID: 204943862 750/1500 $250 GTD R/A, Table 5 (Hold'em)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Seat 1: Half a Yard (75865).
    Seat 2: escott121181 (31510).
    Seat 3: Csonka (21795).
    Seat 4: JugsJudy (32660).
    Seat 5: CrazeG5555 (29245).
    Seat 6: dont2outme (37966).
    Seat 9: urluckstops (72513).
    Player escott121181 ante (150)
    Player Csonka ante (150)
    Player JugsJudy ante (150)
    Player CrazeG5555 ante (150)
    Player dont2outme ante (150)
    Player urluckstops ante (150)
    Player Half a Yard ante (150)
    Player escott121181 has small blind (750)
    Player Csonka has big blind (1500)
    Player escott121181 received a card.
    Player escott121181 received a card.
    Player Csonka received a card.
    Player Csonka received a card.
    Player JugsJudy received a card.
    Player JugsJudy received a card.
    Player CrazeG5555 received a card.
    Player CrazeG5555 received a card.
    Player dont2outme received card: [Ad]
    Player dont2outme received card: [Qc]
    Player urluckstops received a card.
    Player urluckstops received a card.
    Player Half a Yard received a card.
    Player Half a Yard received a card.
    Player JugsJudy folds
    Player CrazeG5555 folds
    Player dont2outme raises (3410)
    Player urluckstops calls (3410)
    Player Half a Yard calls (3410)
    Player escott121181 folds
    Player Csonka calls (1910)
    *** FLOP ***: [Qd 4s 6h]
    Player Csonka checks
    Player dont2outme bets (7984)
    Player urluckstops folds
    Player Half a Yard raises (39920)
    Player Csonka allin (18235)
    Player dont2outme folds
    Uncalled bet (21685) returned to Half a Yard
    *** TURN ***: [Qd 4s 6h] [9h]
    *** RIVER ***: [Qd 4s 6h 9h] [As]
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 59894. Rake 0
    Board: [Qd 4s 6h 9h As]
    *Player Half a Yard shows: One pair of Qs [Ks Qh]. Bets: 21795. Collects: 59894. Wins: 38099.
    Player escott121181 does not show cards.Bets: 900. Collects: 0. Loses: 900.
    Player Csonka shows: High card A [5c 7c]. Bets: 21795. Collects: 0. Loses: 21795.
    Player JugsJudy does not show cards.Bets: 150. Collects: 0. Loses: 150.
    Player CrazeG5555 does not show cards.Bets: 150. Collects: 0. Loses: 150.
    Player dont2outme does not show cards.Bets: 11544. Collects: 0. Loses: 11544.
    Player urluckstops does not show cards.Bets: 3560. Collects: 0. Loses: 3560.
    Game ended at: 2013/10/3 21:13:44

  2. #2
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    OK, you maybe should call this, but I see no problem to fold if you are not sure. On the bubble you should fold more frequently. Risk chips is not always good decision even if you are ahead in the end. (you should never be sure what turn, river brings out) ... there was couple of combinations which beats you. For me it is not so wrong decision.

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    I think this is a tough hand, but imo, i think i call there, for a few reasons. First, you have a third of your stack committed with the continuation bet and with a fold have less than 10 blinds/antes left. At first i was thinking , yes fold because of csonka's call, then i looked more closely, and because of his stack, he is not a factor in decision, losing to him is basically same as folding, as you would end up with bout same stack with a loss to csonka and winning the side pot as you would with a fold. So comes down to other guy, and being a 1r, i'd say he could have a Q with worse kicker, or a set, but i'd take my chances at a huge pot rather than fold and leave myself in basically an allin or fold situation. Maybe you play ss'd differently, but at 10 blinds left, not many moves left. Just my opinion, don't think fold was horrible, just think call was right move.

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    A lot depends on what you know about the others, and also - it was the FT bubble but not the cash bubble. If it were the cash bubble, I'd say fold since you come away with plenty of chips. In a $1 MTT, I think it's fair odds that you are ahead even against the shove, although I do see that you'd be worried someone hit 2 pair, it's hard to believe someone calls off the 2.5bb preflop with Q6, Q4 or 64 when they're not in the blinds. Tough one, but I think I would have called.

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopsnBarley28 View Post
    A lot depends on what you know about the others, and also - it was the FT bubble but not the cash bubble. If it were the cash bubble, I'd say fold since you come away with plenty of chips. In a $1 MTT, I think it's fair odds that you are ahead even against the shove, although I do see that you'd be worried someone hit 2 pair, it's hard to believe someone calls off the 2.5bb preflop with Q6, Q4 or 64 when they're not in the blinds. Tough one, but I think I would have called.
    i was thinking 66 or 44

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    I would have folded... better safe than sorry considering the wagers

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