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  1. #1
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    Playing AA postflop

    Ive gotten AA close to 500 times since I've been grinding 4nl. That is over 100k hands since the beginning of November. Playing AA postflop can be tricky. You have to be careful not to commit yourself with the ultimate top pair top kicker. Play it the same way you would top pair top kicker vs drawing hands or a lower pair etc. The idea with AA is to do everything you can to get the money all in pre. Start by putting in the raise, and hope others follow suit with 3betting and 4bettng galore. Here are a few looks into how I played AA postflop. These examples show when i went for pot control, when i played for stacks, and when I folded.

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    Villian here is a competent reg. I have seen him play big hands on draw boards and he is not one to slowplay. He fires out pot on a very wet boad J 10 9 hh. I expect him to have straights, two pairs and trips here so often. I could peel off a turn but I decide to give up the hand right here. The pot is only .30 I only have .12 invested and I have no idea where I am at because he just called in the BB. 78, QK, 10J, 109, J9s, JJ, 1010, 99 are all in the villians range. My best bet is to be up verse a combo draw like a pair and flush draw or a pair and straight draw and even those hands im only 60% favorite in. I fold and find a better spot even though I am in position.

    ***** Hand History for Game 63184130394 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 09, 06:07:12 ET 2012
    Table Havana IV (63184130) (Real Money)
    Seat 4 is the button
    Seat 1: BigButton ( $4.17 USD )
    Seat 2: jblazer ( $2.26 USD )
    Seat 3: Eaglesfan1983 ( $4.02 USD )
    Seat 4: Howst1 ( $4.19 USD )
    Seat 5: Chronemics ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 6: FlushDraww ( $5.00 USD )
    Seat 7: ShaneOmac72 ( $4.04 USD )
    Seat 8: ontiltlatenight ( $4.16 USD )
    Seat 9: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.96 USD )
    Chronemics posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    FlushDraww posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ac Ad ]
    ShaneOmac72 folds
    ontiltlatenight folds
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.12 USD]
    BigButton calls [$0.12 USD]
    jblazer folds
    Eaglesfan1983 folds
    Howst1 folds
    Chronemics folds
    FlushDraww folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jh, 9s ]
    d33p5t4ck3d checks
    BigButton bets [$0.30 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d folds
    d33p5t4ck3d shows [Ac, Ad ]
    BigButton wins $0.29 USD from main pot
    BigButton wins $0.30 USD

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    Here is another AA where I put in my standard raise. Button calls and BB calls and the flop falls 6 7 8 r. BB leads out for pot. BB range here is 45, 56, 67, 78, 86s, 89, 910 and sometimes 66, 77, 88 although i dont expect him to be betting sets. He either has a combo draw or a made hand. Theres no flush draw so he must have some type of made hand. My guess is he has something like bottom two pair. He fires out pot. I toss it instead of trying to flat and re-evaluate where I am at on the turn.

    ***** Hand History for Game 63376784302 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 14, 10:45:05 ET 2012
    Table Havana 2A2AFast2A2A III (63376784) (Real Money)
    Seat 8 is the button
    Seat 1: airpinto ( $2.97 USD )
    Seat 2: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.04 USD )
    Seat 3: limares ( $4.50 USD )
    Seat 4: unome2 ( $5.16 USD )
    Seat 5: KrunkstarBeast ( $1.20 USD )
    Seat 6: eljefe8616 ( $1.20 USD )
    Seat 7: Fereidoon ( $0.81 USD )
    Seat 8: ECencar5 ( $7.01 USD )
    Seat 9: Fungbro2 ( $9.19 USD )
    Fungbro2 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    airpinto posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ah Ac ]
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.12 USD]
    unome2 folds
    Fereidoon folds
    ECencar5 calls [$0.12 USD]
    Fungbro2 folds
    airpinto calls [$0.08 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 6s, 8c ]
    airpinto bets [$0.38 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d folds
    ECencar5 folds
    airpinto wins $0.37 USD from main pot
    airpinto wins $0.38 USD

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    Here is an AA where I 3bet AA to .36 preflop and the BB calls. I have no history with the villian. The flop comes 9 10 J hh. In my opinion this is a board that smacks the villians range. I expect him to have 99, 1010, JJ so much here where he flatted a 3bet oop pre. I also think 910, 10J are in his range. This board is so wet. If he has a combo draw he isnt going to fold, and if he has a set he is check raising. I check behind on the flop for pot control. Turn is an atrocious Q. which I check. River comes a 2. I end up checking down and he scoops the pot with Q10. I am okay with this. Theoretically I should charge him to draw but with a pair and open end he is not folding and since his range includes so many made hands as well I am ok checking down and not getting involved in a big pot.

    ***** Hand History for Game 63114368391 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 07, 09:32:33 ET 2012
    Table Havana IV (63114368) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: ImAceKingU2Fold1 ( $4.33 USD )
    Seat 2: 6pro8newt ( $0.53 USD )
    Seat 3: JohnyUtahX ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 4: noruk1 ( $6.43 USD )
    Seat 5: Slickdonkey7 ( $3.96 USD )
    Seat 6: AccioChips ( $4.10 USD )
    Seat 7: laceyface ( $4.07 USD )
    Seat 8: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 9: UnclePhillip ( $4.15 USD )
    noruk1 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    Slickdonkey7 posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ad As ]
    AccioChips folds
    laceyface raises [$0.09 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.36 USD]
    UnclePhillip folds
    ImAceKingU2Fold1 folds
    6pro8newt folds
    JohnyUtahX folds
    noruk1 folds
    Slickdonkey7 calls [$0.32 USD]
    laceyface folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, Jh, Ts ]
    Slickdonkey7 checks
    d33p5t4ck3d checks
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
    Slickdonkey7 checks
    d33p5t4ck3d checks
    ** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
    Slickdonkey7 checks
    d33p5t4ck3d checks
    Slickdonkey7 shows [Td, Qd ]
    d33p5t4ck3d shows [Ad, As ]
    Slickdonkey7 wins $0.79 USD from main pot

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    Here is an AA where I am oop. Villian is playing all sorts of hands at 36/14. The flop falls 9 9 10 r. I do not expect the villian to have a 9 very often. Combos of 9 he might have are 910o, 910s, 89o, 89s, 9js, 97s, 96s, A9s, A9o. Since flop is a rainbow there is only one combo of 910s he could have and the other combos of 9 are less likely. I think by the turn when I fire pot he would be happy to click back for a min raise if he did have the 9 and then I could re-evaluate it by then. I expect to see 10Js, 10J, A10s, A10o, K10s, K10o here a bunch as well as hands like JQ and 78. By betting pot on two barrels I feel like I am taking away his odds to draw on a pair board. I dont think he can fold any overpair if he does have JJ or QQ and slowplayed it. I feel really comfortable throwing 3 large barrels here and bulding a pot. The backdoor flush does get there but I am willing to pay that off if he does have it. I fire three huge barrels and get paid off by 108s.

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    Heres the HH that goes with the last post:

    ***** Hand History for Game 63529459233 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 18, 11:06:14 ET 2012
    Table Havana XI (63529459) (Real Money)
    Seat 9 is the button
    Seat 1: CaymanTime1 ( $5.35 USD )
    Seat 2: 6pro8newt ( $4.74 USD )
    Seat 3: jbullag ( $4.26 USD )
    Seat 4: mccbfal01 ( $4.63 USD )
    Seat 5: Sunny89 ( $2.33 USD )
    Seat 6: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.93 USD )
    Seat 7: JJgog88 ( $1.82 USD )
    Seat 8: BadSue ( $5.17 USD )
    Seat 9: JohnyUtahX ( $4.00 USD )
    CaymanTime1 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    6pro8newt posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ad Ah ]
    jbullag folds
    mccbfal01 folds
    Sunny89 folds
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.12 USD]
    JJgog88 folds
    BadSue calls [$0.12 USD]
    JohnyUtahX folds
    CaymanTime1 folds
    6pro8newt folds
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, Ts, 9c ]
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.30 USD]
    BadSue calls [$0.30 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.90 USD]
    BadSue calls [$0.90 USD]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$1.90 USD]
    BadSue calls [$1.90 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d shows [Ad, Ah ]
    BadSue shows [8h, Th ]
    d33p5t4ck3d wins $6.18 USD from main pot

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    Villian here is 25/3. When he comes in for a range I know he has 88+ AQ+ because he is only raising 3% of his hands. I 3bet him .12 to .40 hopping to start a raising war. He flats OOP. I narrow his range to 1010, JJ, QQ, AK and perhaps AQs because I am not sure how bad he is. Flop comes 6 9 9 hh. I have the Ah so I can take away AKhh and AQhh from his range. If he has an overpair he is going to have a hard time folding. Board is very safe and is good for me to barrel. I fire .50, .90 which sets up a perfect pot for a river shove 2.20 and he calls me down with QQ.

    ***** Hand History for Game 6319442621 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 09, 07:59:09 ET 2012
    Table Havana XIV (63194426) (Real Money)
    Seat 6 is the button
    Seat 1: xx5m1l3xx ( $2.32 USD )
    Seat 2: monte2115 ( $4.28 USD )
    Seat 3: R3ptar ( $4.24 USD )
    Seat 4: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 5: 4charley ( $3.90 USD )
    Seat 6: claytthegr8 ( $1.45 USD )
    Seat 7: Blake150 ( $1.78 USD )
    Seat 8: DamUSuckLOL ( $1.75 USD )
    Seat 9: BigButton ( $4.00 USD )
    Blake150 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    DamUSuckLOL posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ah Ad ]
    xx5m1l3xx folds
    monte2115 folds
    R3ptar raises [$0.14 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.40 USD]
    4charley folds
    claytthegr8 folds
    Blake150 folds
    DamUSuckLOL folds
    R3ptar calls [$0.26 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 9c, 9h ]
    R3ptar checks
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.50 USD]
    R3ptar calls [$0.50 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
    R3ptar checks
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.90 USD]
    R3ptar calls [$0.90 USD]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
    R3ptar checks
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$2.20 USD]
    R3ptar calls [$2.20 USD]
    R3ptar shows [Qs, Qh ]
    d33p5t4ck3d shows [Ah, Ad ]
    d33p5t4ck3d wins $7.66 USD from main pot

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    Nice hands... keep playing man! Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramram View Post
    Nice hands... keep playing man! Good luck
    lol

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    Here is an AA where the board is 9 4 Q dd. This is a wet board that presents a few draws. I bet half pot on the flop and the turn in position. While this is a little low, it does take away his odds to call a flush draw (8 outs 16% chance on each street). He has 5:1 odds to hit but I make him pay 3:1. There is a good argument for betting 2/3 to pot size bets here. But if I do this I commit myself to call on the river and therefore give him implied odds even though I am taking away his direct pot odds. The diamond peels the river and he makes a large weird bet that is almost all in but not quite. I dont think he is getting fancy I think he wants to get paid. I think he has a flush so often here. Or he is a bad player value betting another made hand that has AA crushed. I fold my AA confidently here.

    ***** Hand History for Game 63180615270 ***** (Merge)
    $4.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, November 09, 04:13:19 ET 2012
    Table Havana III (63180615) (Real Money)
    Seat 7 is the button
    Seat 1: youngmoney069 ( $2.38 USD )
    Seat 2: 1aceace ( $3.74 USD )
    Seat 3: morphingbuildups ( $11.26 USD )
    Seat 4: icejigger ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 5: FlushDraww ( $4.27 USD )
    Seat 6: d33p5t4ck3d ( $4.23 USD )
    Seat 7: Billgl1000cp ( $2.30 USD )
    Seat 8: 22timeout ( $4.00 USD )
    Seat 9: nicusssss ( $5.07 USD )
    youngmoney069 posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
    1aceace posts big blind [$0.04 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to d33p5t4ck3d [ Ac As ]
    morphingbuildups folds
    icejigger raises [$0.11 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d raises [$0.45 USD]
    Billgl1000cp folds
    youngmoney069 folds
    1aceace folds
    icejigger calls [$0.34 USD]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 4h, Qd ]
    icejigger checks
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.40 USD]
    icejigger calls [$0.40 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
    icejigger checks
    d33p5t4ck3d bets [$0.80 USD]
    icejigger calls [$0.80 USD]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
    icejigger bets [$1.68 USD]
    d33p5t4ck3d folds
    d33p5t4ck3d shows [Ac, As ]
    icejigger wins $3.20 USD from main pot
    icejigger wins $1.68 USD

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